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gpt-oss 20B vs Llama 3.3 70B for Radeon

gpt-oss 20B is 21.5B total / 3.6B active, 131,072 tokens on the official card. Llama 3.3 70B is 70.6B, 128K tokens. Q6 / Q5 / Q4 file sizes come from the listed GGUFs on each /models page, or a calculator estimate when a listing is missing. Q3 stays off. Q4 fits gpt-oss 20B on one R9700 at 4K and spills on Llama 3.3 70B. Neither model was measured on the local desktop. Fit numbers are calculator estimates. llama.cpp first.

How we test — Measured cells cite official amdai-bench/run@1 cards. Estimates stay labeled. Q3 is estimate-only. Q1/Q2 stay off.

Sizes, active params, context

Cited, not measured on the local desktop

gpt-oss 20B

16 GB MoE — cited, not measured

Parameters
21.5B total / 3.6B active
21.5B total · 3.6B active
Cited context
131,072 tokens
Official card context claim: 131,072 tokens.
Q6 / Q5 / Q4 files
  • Q6_K · 12.04 GB
  • Q5_K_M · 11.72 GB
  • Q4_K_M · 11.62 GB
Official card: 21B parameters with 3.6B active. Official config.json max_position_embeddings is 131,072. Alternating attention: 12 full-context layers, 12 at a 128-token window. Native MXFP4 MoE weights keep GGUF Q6/Q5/Q4/Q3 files close in size; the Q3 row is a labeled estimate.

Full model page · Official card · GGUF · Can an R9700 run it? · Open in calculator

Cited, not measured on the local desktop

Llama 3.3 70B

32–64 GB dense — cited, not measured

Parameters
70.6B
70.6B total · 70.6B active
Cited context
128K tokens
Official card context claim: 128K tokens.
Q6 / Q5 / Q4 files
  • Q6_K · 57.89 GB
  • Q5_K_M · 49.95 GB
  • Q4_K_M · 42.52 GB
Dense 70B, GQA 8×128, full-attention KV on 80 layers. Official card context is 128K tokens.

Full model page · Official card · GGUF · Can an R9700 run it? · Open in calculator

Fit on common cards

Existing GPU sheets only: R9700, RX 7900 XTX, RX 7900 XT, RX 7800 XT. llama.cpp, f16 KV. Totals are calculator estimates. Speed is measured only on R9700 35B cells that already exist; everything else stays not measured yet. This table lists Q6 / Q5 / Q4. Q3 stays on the calculator as a labeled estimate.

R9700 32 GB

gpt-oss 20B vs Llama 3.3 70B on R9700
Quant Kind gpt-oss 20B 4Kgpt-oss 20B 32Kgpt-oss 20B 128K Llama 3.3 70B 4KLlama 3.3 70B 32KLlama 3.3 70B 125K
Q6

Q6_K / Q6_K

Estimate

11.9 GB

Fits in VRAM (estimate)

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

12.6 GB

Fits in VRAM (estimate)

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

14.8 GB

Fits in VRAM (estimate)

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

56.4 GB

Does not fit this GPU

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

65.3 GB

Does not fit this GPU

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

94.8 GB

Does not fit this GPU

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

Q5

Q5_K_M / Q5_K_M

Estimate

11.6 GB

Fits in VRAM (estimate)

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

12.3 GB

Fits in VRAM (estimate)

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

14.5 GB

Fits in VRAM (estimate)

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

48.9 GB

Does not fit this GPU

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

57.8 GB

Does not fit this GPU

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

87.3 GB

Does not fit this GPU

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

Q4

Q4_K_M / Q4_K_M

Estimate

11.5 GB

Fits in VRAM (estimate)

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

12.2 GB

Fits in VRAM (estimate)

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

14.4 GB

Fits in VRAM (estimate)

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

41.9 GB

Does not fit this GPU

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

50.7 GB

Does not fit this GPU

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

80.2 GB

Does not fit this GPU

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

RX 7900 XTX 24 GB

gpt-oss 20B vs Llama 3.3 70B on RX 7900 XTX
Quant Kind gpt-oss 20B 4Kgpt-oss 20B 32Kgpt-oss 20B 128K Llama 3.3 70B 4KLlama 3.3 70B 32KLlama 3.3 70B 125K
Q6

Q6_K / Q6_K

Estimate

11.9 GB

Fits in VRAM (estimate)

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

12.6 GB

Fits in VRAM (estimate)

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

14.8 GB

Fits in VRAM (estimate)

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

56.4 GB

Does not fit this GPU

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

65.3 GB

Does not fit this GPU

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

94.8 GB

Does not fit this GPU

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

Q5

Q5_K_M / Q5_K_M

Estimate

11.6 GB

Fits in VRAM (estimate)

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

12.3 GB

Fits in VRAM (estimate)

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

14.5 GB

Fits in VRAM (estimate)

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

48.9 GB

Does not fit this GPU

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

57.8 GB

Does not fit this GPU

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

87.3 GB

Does not fit this GPU

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

Q4

Q4_K_M / Q4_K_M

Estimate

11.5 GB

Fits in VRAM (estimate)

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

12.2 GB

Fits in VRAM (estimate)

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

14.4 GB

Fits in VRAM (estimate)

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

41.9 GB

Does not fit this GPU

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

50.7 GB

Does not fit this GPU

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

80.2 GB

Does not fit this GPU

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

RX 7900 XT 20 GB

gpt-oss 20B vs Llama 3.3 70B on RX 7900 XT
Quant Kind gpt-oss 20B 4Kgpt-oss 20B 32Kgpt-oss 20B 128K Llama 3.3 70B 4KLlama 3.3 70B 32KLlama 3.3 70B 125K
Q6

Q6_K / Q6_K

Estimate

11.9 GB

Fits in VRAM (estimate)

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

12.6 GB

Fits in VRAM (estimate)

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

14.8 GB

Fits in VRAM (estimate)

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

56.4 GB

Does not fit this GPU

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

65.3 GB

Does not fit this GPU

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

94.8 GB

Does not fit this GPU

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

Q5

Q5_K_M / Q5_K_M

Estimate

11.6 GB

Fits in VRAM (estimate)

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

12.3 GB

Fits in VRAM (estimate)

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

14.5 GB

Fits in VRAM (estimate)

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

48.9 GB

Does not fit this GPU

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

57.8 GB

Does not fit this GPU

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

87.3 GB

Does not fit this GPU

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

Q4

Q4_K_M / Q4_K_M

Estimate

11.5 GB

Fits in VRAM (estimate)

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

12.2 GB

Fits in VRAM (estimate)

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

14.4 GB

Fits in VRAM (estimate)

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

41.9 GB

Does not fit this GPU

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

50.7 GB

Does not fit this GPU

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

80.2 GB

Does not fit this GPU

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

RX 7800 XT 16 GB

gpt-oss 20B vs Llama 3.3 70B on RX 7800 XT
Quant Kind gpt-oss 20B 4Kgpt-oss 20B 32Kgpt-oss 20B 128K Llama 3.3 70B 4KLlama 3.3 70B 32KLlama 3.3 70B 125K
Q6

Q6_K / Q6_K

Estimate

11.9 GB

Fits in VRAM (estimate)

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

12.6 GB

Fits in VRAM (estimate)

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

14.8 GB

Fits in VRAM (estimate)

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

56.4 GB

Does not fit this GPU

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

65.3 GB

Does not fit this GPU

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

94.8 GB

Does not fit this GPU

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

Q5

Q5_K_M / Q5_K_M

Estimate

11.6 GB

Fits in VRAM (estimate)

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

12.3 GB

Fits in VRAM (estimate)

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

14.5 GB

Fits in VRAM (estimate)

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

48.9 GB

Does not fit this GPU

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

57.8 GB

Does not fit this GPU

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

87.3 GB

Does not fit this GPU

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

Q4

Q4_K_M / Q4_K_M

Estimate

11.5 GB

Fits in VRAM (estimate)

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

12.2 GB

Fits in VRAM (estimate)

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

14.4 GB

Fits in VRAM (estimate)

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

41.9 GB

Does not fit this GPU

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

50.7 GB

Does not fit this GPU

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

80.2 GB

Does not fit this GPU

not measured yet

No official local desktop cell for this model × card. Not measured yet.

System RAM

When a shopper file does not fit, the spill is system RAM. Shopper lines stay Minimum system RAM needed and RAM needed at full context on one R9700 at the model’s shopper quant, 32K selected and the official-card full context. Estimate unless a measured R9700 card overlays the kit.

gpt-oss 20B

Q4_K_M at 4K and 32K fits the listed cards on the calculator.

Minimum system RAM needed

32 GB kit

Estimate · 24.6 GiB raw · 32K context

RAM needed at full context

32 GB kit

Estimate · 24.6 GiB raw · 8K full context

Estimate. Offloaded weights + KV in RAM + runtime + OS/desktop + headroom, rounded up to a 32 GB DIMM kit.

Breakdown
Offloaded weights ·
0 GiB
Separable embed in RAM ·
0 GiB
KV in RAM at selected ·
0 GiB
KV in RAM at full context ·
0 GiB
Runtime / backend ·
0.57 GiB
OS / desktop baseline ·
8.00 GiB
Headroom ·
16.0 GiB

Llama 3.3 70B

Q4_K_M at 4K or 32K does not fit every listed card on the calculator.

Minimum system RAM needed

48 GB kit

Estimate · 42.7 GiB raw · 32K context

RAM needed at full context

48 GB kit

Estimate · 35.1 GiB raw · 8K full context

Estimate. Offloaded weights + KV in RAM + runtime + OS/desktop + headroom, rounded up to a 48 GB DIMM kit.

Breakdown
Offloaded weights ·
7.60 GiB
Separable embed in RAM ·
0 GiB
KV in RAM at selected ·
10.0 GiB
KV in RAM at full context ·
2.50 GiB
Runtime / backend ·
1.14 GiB
OS / desktop baseline ·
8.00 GiB
Headroom ·
16.0 GiB

llama.cpp first

Commands and recipes already on the model pages. Cited-model shapes are not measured local desktop recipes. House Flash keeps its existing Strata recipe plus the llama.cpp backend page.

gpt-oss 20B

  • gpt-oss 20B llama.cpp Q4_K_M llama.cpp

    # Shape only — not a measured local desktop recipe.
    ./build-vk/bin/llama-server \
      -m ~/models/gpt-oss-20b-Q4_K_M.gguf \
      -ngl 99 \
      -c 8192 \
      --cache-type-k f16 \
      --cache-type-v f16 \
      --host 127.0.0.1 --port 8080

Llama 3.3 70B

  • Llama 3.3 70B llama.cpp Q4_K_M llama.cpp

    # Shape only — not a measured local desktop recipe.
    ./build-vk/bin/llama-server \
      -m ~/models/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct-Q4_K_M.gguf \
      -ngl 99 \
      -c 8192 \
      --cache-type-k f16 \
      --cache-type-v f16 \
      --host 127.0.0.1 --port 8080

Plain-English pick

  • Chat

    gpt-oss 20B holds Q4 on one R9700 at 4K. Llama 3.3 70B needs RAM offload.

  • Coding agents

    Keep llama.cpp first. The side that holds Q4 in VRAM (gpt-oss 20B) is the less painful coding-agent host. House Flash / agent pins stay R9700 / local desktop — they do not transfer. No invented agent speed.

  • Long context

    Cited context is 131,072 tokens vs 128K tokens. KV grows with context. Q4 at 32K fits gpt-oss 20B and spills on Llama 3.3 70B on one R9700. Read /long-context for measured R9700 35B 128K–262K cards. We do not invent a 128K decode figure here.

  • Size and VRAM

    gpt-oss 20B files: Q6_K 12.04 GB, Q5_K_M 11.72 GB, Q4_K_M 11.62 GB. Llama 3.3 70B files: Q6_K 57.89 GB, Q5_K_M 49.95 GB, Q4_K_M 42.52 GB. Fit on the four existing GPU sheets below. Empty speed cells stay not measured yet.

Stack Lab

Open in Stack Lab only where the handoff is already allowlisted. Doctor is always here. House daily / Flash / agent profiles appear only when that house model is on the pair.

Open in Stack Lab

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